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Gin Blossoms
Tempe,Arizona, United States
(December 1987 - April 1992)
Members
By the start of 1987 all of the Ten O'Clock Scholars had made their way back to Phoenix. Once back in Phoenix, Doug formed his next band, in much the same way most of his previous bands were formed - with Bill Leen on bass. Unlike the previous bands, this band was set to go beyond the bars and clubs of Tempe, Arizona and become the band that Doug was to be the most remembered for on a local, national and eventually global scale.
Doug and Bill were hooked up with Jesse Valenzuela through David McKay who had previous played with Jesse in The Photos. Guitarist Richard Taylor and drummer Chris McCann were added to the lineup, and the Gin Blossoms were formed, taking their name from a picture of W.C Fields in the book Hollywood Babylon II with a severe case of rosacea. The band played their first gig at the Edcels Attic in Tempe on Dec 20, 1987, billed as Cap'n Crunch. Five days later, on Christmas Day they played their first gig as the Gin Blossoms at Phoenix's legendary Mason Jar. At the time, guitarist Richard Taylor was on parole, and to get around the issue of parole violation, the band developed an alter ego - The Del Montes. Five brothers, all with the same mother but different fathers. Each member assumed a "Del Monte" name, Doug's being "Otis Del Monte". As the Del Montes, the band would play mostly covers and Hopkins' penned originals. It wasn't long before the band was the biggest thing in Tempe, playing four sets nightly at bars like Long Wongs. The Del Monte's moniker became so prolifent, that members of the band, including Doug, were referred to by their Del Monte name almost as frequently their actual name. Robin can still be heard yelling out "Otis!" before guitar solos (Dream With You, Cajun Song, Hands Are Tied), and Doug is often referred to as "Otis" in CD liners. In March 1998 Richard Taylor was fired due to drug abuse and was replaced on guitar by Doug's skateboarding buddy Robin Wilson. A month later, Chris McCann left the group and was replaced by Dan Henzerling. Dan's time in the band was short lived, leaving the band 6 months later to join The Best Kissers In The World. Phil Rhodes was recruited as the new drummer. By this time, it'd become apparent that Valenzuela was a better guitarist, and Wilson a better singer and the pair switched roles, solidifying the Gin Blossoms lineup which that the world would come to know. The summer of 1989 saw the Blossoms record their first independent album, Dusted. Although the album liners credit the whole band on the writing, 7 of the 12 tracks were written / co-written by Hopkins. These Hopkins' tracks include some new Hopkins' material, such as "Lost Horizons", material ground work started on during the Ten O'Clock Scholars period, "Hey Jealousy" and "Found Out About You", and "Angels Tonight", carried over from Algebra Ranch. Although hard to come by, Dusted is probably one of their earliest Hopkins recordings still available, if you look hard enough, or have the right connections. By May 1990 the band had inked a deal with A&M Records. 1991 saw the recording and release of the EP, Up And Crumbling, which featured two Doug songs. "Keli Richards", and "Angels Tonight". The following year was bittersweet for the band, as they started work on a full length album for A&M. In Memphis during the recording of the album that became New Miserable Experience, the band's double platinum debut, Doug became despondent, drinking heavily during the sessions. Towards the end of the 2 month sessions in Memphis, Doug was sent back to Phoenix, and soon learned that he'd been fired from the band. In August 1992, the album was released, half of which contained Hopkins material, including 4 songs penned by Doug and another 2 co-written with him. In the time between the album was recorded and released, the Gin Blossoms had recruited local Tempe guitarist Scott Johnson as Doug's replacement. The album was released with little mention of Doug, other than song writing and guitar credit, instead featuring photos of Scott Johnson as a member of the band, despite not playing on the record. Following the release of New Miserable Experience, a heated feud between Doug and the band quickly insued. At the center of this was Doug's contribution to New Miserable Experience, raising conjecture about how much Doug played on the album. Doug publicly maintained that the majority of the guitar on the record is his. While there was never a clear resolve to that question in the media, a comparison to pre and post Hopkins recordings and performances gives a fair indication. Initially the album had very little momentum, however 7 months later started to catch on, by the end of it's run selling over 2 million copies on the back of the first two singles Hey Jealousy and Found Out About You, both written by Doug. Robin Wilson and Doug Hopkins Acoustic Demos
Robin Wilson and Doug Hopkins recorded a number of demos acoustically on a 4 track in Robin's brother's bedroom. The actual date these songs were written / recorded is unknown. It was rumored that they were recorded in 1988, but it's more likely they were written around the time of the recording of Dusted, which was when "Still Wondering Where Those Bastards Are" was written. The only song that was ever later re-recorded and released was the Wilson written "Heart Away". A few of the other tracks were played live by the Gin Blossoms, and made other demo sessions.
Who wrote which songs is unknown, unless otherwise specified, but it is assumed that either Doug or Robin wrote the songs, or co-wrote together. Dusted
Dusted was the Gin Blossoms' first, independent, and self produced album, released locally on vinyl and cassette. It contains many tracks later recorded for major label releases, 5 of which were written by Doug, including the hits Hey Jealousy and Found Out About You. (A total of 7 Dusted tracks were written by Doug - Lost Horizons, Found Out About You, Angels Tonight, Keli Richards (with Bill), Hey Jealousy, Slave Dealer's Daughter (with Bill) and Fireworks).
The songs are played at lightning speed, and is show cases the Gin Blossoms in their raw form. The album has long been out of print, however, but since getting back together, after their 5 year break up, the Gin Blossoms have re-released Dusted independently on CD in 2002. It can be ordered through Jesse Valenzuela's website, or picked up at the current Gin Blossoms shows. The re-release of Dusted is sure to make the recording a little less obscure, and is probably the earliest source of Hopkin's material that isn't too hard to get your hands on. (Original copies of the vinyl and cassette release show up on ebay from time to time also.) Radical Records Demos
There are at least two sets of studio demos that the Gin Blossoms recorded. The first is again rumored to be recorded circa 1988, but if all four songs are from the same session, it was recorded after Dusted came out (See Dream With You). Details about this recording aren't really known. Two Hopkins penned tunes were recorded, the aforementioned "Dream With You", and "Pieces Of The Night". It also features early versions of "Allison Road", and "Hands Are Tied". A very cool little tape. Whether all four songs were recorded during the same session, or if these were the only songs recorded is not known for sure.
Regent Studio Demos
The second lot of demos that we know about, recorded at the end of 1990. It features three old acoustic demo songs re-recorded "Biggest Date", "You Cost Me Too Much" and Hopkin's "25 Women Ago". It also contains a demo version of Hopkin's "Blue Eyes Bleeding" which he wrote with the Ten O'Clock Scholars. The track list is quite varied, ranging from the country sound "You Cost Me Too Much", to the medium paced "Just South Of Nowhere", to the south-western rocker "Fallen For You".
Again, it is undetermined who wrote "Biggest Date", "You Cost Me Too Much", and "Fallen For You". (The latter two we personally think Doug wrote, but don't have anything documented to back that up). Up and Crumbling
After several failed attempts to record an album (which later became New Miserable Experience), A&M Records allowed the Gin Blossoms to record an EP on their own, which would be their first major label recording.
The EP contained the Hopkins tracks Angels Tonight and Keli Richards originally recorded for Dusted, re-recorded much more professionally for this release. Although not penned by Hopkins, it's worthwhile mentioning that Allison Road was lifted off the EP as a promotional single. This is the only Gin Blossoms single ever produced while Doug was formally a member of the band, and containing a photo of Doug with the band. It was distributed as a CD in a slimline jewelcase, without inserts, and a print of the photo found in the Up And Crumbling inserts in green and blue on the disc. The disc is quite rare. (A&M 75021 7332-2 © & (P) 1991 A&M Records). New Miserable Experience
New Miserable Experience was Doug's first, and sadly only, full length major label recording, recorded as a Gin Blossom. In April, towards the end of the recording, Doug was sent home to Arizona, after his excessive drinking created problems in the studio. He subsequently was informed not to return, as he'd been fired.
There has since been a lot of conjecture about how much of Hopkins is actually on the record, however, it isn't hard to hear Doug's signature guitar playing on it, especially in comparison to later versions of the songs with Scott Johnson on guitar. Added to the fact, that he was fired towards the end of the recording of the album. After a shaky start, New Miserable Experience took off a year later, propelling the Gin Blossoms into stardom. The album sold over 2 million copies world wide, riding on the success of the two Hopkins penned singles, Hey Jealousy and Found Out About You. The new found Gin Blossoms fame and media exposure of his songs, proved to truly be a new miserable experience for Hopkins, who couldn't stand hearing his songs on the radio, smashing his gold record plaque for Hey Jealousy two weeks after receiving it, shortly before his suicide. New Miserable Experience (Deluxe Edition)
A 10th anniversary re-released of New Miserable Experience is slated for release in July or August of 2002, coinciding with the original release of the album 10 years ago. The album is to be repackaged with a bonus disc, containing rare bonus tracks. Notable Hopkins tracks on the bonus CD include an outtake of Blue Eyes Bleeding from the New Miserable Experience recording sessions, and the alternative version of Pieces Of The Night with the piano ending, which Doug speaks about in the Two Views of a Gin Blossom Group's Ex-Guitarist Doug Hopkins Reflects on Experience article, again from the Ardent Studio sessions. Two of the selected tracks from Dusted were also written by Doug (Slave Dealer's Daughter and Fireworks).
The disc will be the first time Hopkins' Blue Eyes Bleeding will be officially available to the public. He can also obviously be heard playing on the selected tracks from Dusted and Up And Crumbling that will appear on the CD, in addition to New Miserable Experience. The other Hopkins related track on the disc, is the live version of Hey Jealousy. New Miserable Experience (Rarities Edition)
New Miserable Experience (Rarities Edition) is a 2010 re-release of the New Miserable Experience (Deluxe Edition) second CD, excluding the three tracks from Dusted.
Outside Looking In: The Best Of The Gin Blossoms
Released long after Doug's departure from the band, and suicide, and without the band's input, Outside Looking In - The Best Of The Gin Blossoms contains 3 tracks written by Hopkins, and 8 recorded while he was part of the Blossoms.
Just South Of Nowhere
Slated for release in November 2002, the Gin Blossoms are releasing they're first DVD, and first commercial video release, Just South Of Nowhere.
The DVD will feature the Blossom's live performance at the Metro in Chicago from 1993 (previous available as a bootleg CD), as well as a video archive of all the videos they've produced so far. The live show was after Doug was fired from the band, and similarly the videos the Gin Blossoms produced were after Doug was fired, however the videos from New Miserable Experience (except for Allison Road) feature Hopkins on guitar, although he doesn't appear in the videos. Throughout the DVD's commentary, Jesse Valenzuela shares some stories of times with Doug (Hey Jealousy, recording Found Out About You and writing Cheatin'). 20th Century Masters - The Millennium Collection: The Best Of The Gin Blossoms
A best of package released under Universal Music Group's Millennium Collection series.
This best of package contains the same Hopkins songs as Outside Looking In, as well as Lost Horizons. The CD liner notes also have a Hopkins era photo of the Gin Blossoms. Playlist Your Way: Gin Blossoms
Released in 2009, this best of CD is a repacking of Outside Looking In.
25 Women Ago
Written By:
Doug Hopkins
Performed by:
Gin Blossoms
Recorded by:
Doug Hopkins & Robin Wilson
Appears on
Doug Hopkins & Robin Wilson Acoustic Demos, Regent Studio Demos
"This next song...Doug and I used to spend a lot of time just playing together acoustic. And we did a whole slew of songs once, in my brother's bedroom. This is from those sessions, this is a song Doug wrote, 25 Women Ago."-- Robin Wilson Source: Doug Hopkins Tribute - 98 Local Rock. Nothing At All
Written By:
Robin Wilson
Performed by:
Gin Blossoms
Recorded by:
Doug Hopkins & Robin Wilson, Gin Blossoms
Appears on
Doug Hopkins & Robin Wilson Acoustic Demos, Regent Studio Demos
Lyrics:
Unavailable
Note: Nothing At All is the only song listed in this discography not actually written by Doug. It is listed here because the content and Robin's spiel on the song below is quite pertinent to Doug, even though he didn't write it.
"...on the way back home, we, one the last night we, Doug and I had stayed up all night long with the engineer and we were mixing down the record and about 6 in the morning we were finally done. We'd finished Dusted in 6 days and Doug and I got in his car, which we used to call the Command Module, coz remember in the Pharoahs....in the Pharoahs we had Pharoah names.....yours [G. Brian Scott] was Fats I believe, how appropriate enough, and Doug's was Pops, because in those days, he was the oldest member of the Pharoahs, he was 27 when the Pharoahs were formed. My Pharoah name was Commander Rock. Was and is Command Rock. And so we used to call his car the Command Module, cause he couldn't drive, cause he always had his license suspended. And so I'm driving his car back, and we started arguing about the record and about each other, and about the universe and why I gave a shit about physics and stuff - which I used to be really interested in. And he used to argue...'it was stoopid to care about your Uranus when we still don't understand the human mind'. He used to argue that with me all the time. And I remember, we got out of the car and we were taking a piss somewhere between here and Tucson, somewhere by Picacho Peak. We were screaming at each other, we both had our dicks flying in the wind, we're peeing out on the highway, and we were screaming at each other about the validity of my interested verses Doug's interests. Anyway, I went home and I wrote this song, which was about this argument that Doug and I had. And I wrote this song from Doug's perspective. In the song I'm trying to sing what Doug said to me that day on the way back from Tucson. And anyway, this song is called Nothing At All."-- Robin Wilson Source: Doug Hopkins Tribute - 98 Local Rock. Still Wondering Where Those Bastards Are
Written By:
Doug Hopkins / Robin Wilson
Performed by:
Gin Blossoms
Recorded by:
Doug Hopkins & Robin Wilson
Appears on
Doug Hopkins & Robin Wilson Acoustic Demos
"...I don't know if you remember Robin, this day you came in to do this interview, you and Douglas were driving up to Flagstaff, and that's when Wondering Where Those Bastards Are was written."-- Leah Miller "...this is a song, this was Doug and I recording in my brother's bedroom a few years ago, and this is the song we wrote the day we did that stoopid interview for the godforsaken Snickers New Music Search. And this is a song we wrote together, called I'm Still Wondering Where Those Bastards Are."-- Robin Wilson Source: Doug Hopkins Tribute - 98 Local Rock. Slave Dealer's Daughter
Written By:
Doug Hopkins / Bill Leen
Performed by:
Gin Blossoms
Recorded by:
Gin Blossoms
Appears on
Dusted
Fireworks
Written By:
Doug Hopkins
Performed by:
Gin Blossoms
Recorded by:
Gin Blossoms
Appears on
Dusted
Keli Richards
Written By:
Doug Hopkins / Bill Leen
Performed by:
Gin Blossoms
Recorded by:
Gin Blossoms
Appears on
Dusted, Up and Crumbling
"...the truth of the matter is we sing about [girls and beer -- Doug] and porno stars and beer and stuff like that, and are songs are basically pretty silly, y'know, when it comes down to it. We try to be clever about it but..."-- Robin Wilson (unknown interview from 1990) "...well no, theres actually...if you...okay...if you listen to our record actually - I've thought about this. There's like certain songs that are like meant to be sorta serious, that were meant to be like, sorta like school boy poems or something, y'know? And then there's other songs that are meant to be deliberately idiotic, where it's like `let's get drunk and write a song'. That's like Keli Richards'. Okay, so you write a song about a porno star, fine."-- Doug Hopkins (unknown interview from 1990) Source: Doug Hopkins Tribute - 98 Local Rock. Keli Richards is a real life Hollywood porn star, who has starred in such movies as Caught From Behind II, which is a lyric in the song. Lost Horizons
Written By:
Doug Hopkins
Performed by:
Gin Blossoms
Recorded by:
Gin Blossoms
Appears on
Dusted, New Miserable Experience
Doug wrote Lost Horizons just before the Gin Blossoms were formed, and was one of the new Hopkins' songs that was played during the Blossoms' debut show at Edcel's Attic in December 1987.
The Gin Blossoms also performed Lost Horizons during their CMJ performance in 1990. It was originally recorded for Dusted in 1990. It and the Dusted version of Hopkins' song Found Out About You was featured in the Snickers New Music Search (and is available on the Snickers New Music Search LP). It was later re-recorded for New Miserable Experience, which it was lifted off from as a promotional single in 1992. Hey Jealousy
Written By:
Doug Hopkins
Performed by:
Gin Blossoms
Recorded by:
Gin Blossoms
Appears on
Dusted, New Miserable Experience
Hey Jealousy was originally written for the album Dusted, and is cited as a large factor in the Gin Blossoms being signed to a major label.
It become the first single lifted from the album New Miserable Experience album, after Doug had been fired from the band and became the breakthrough single for the Gin Blossoms 7 months after it's initial release, burning up the Billboard charts and months later becoming a hit all around the world. Hey Jealousy was inspired by David Swafford's (of The Best Kissers In The World), sister, who Doug dated. Found Out About You
Written By:
Doug Hopkins
Performed by:
Gin Blossoms
Recorded by:
Gin Blossoms
Appears on
Dusted, New Miserable Experience
"It's July 29 of 1985, I went to see R.E.M at the Palace West Theatre, and after the concert I see her. I turn to walk away, and she runs up from behind me - she was a black strip in Twe Kwon Do - and she nailed me one, put me in hospital for a week and a half. Shattered cheek bone, shattered occipital lobe. I still have scars from this folks. Aww man. Anyway, it's about her."-- Doug Hopkins (KASR Interview 1990) Source: Doug Hopkins Tribute - 98 Local Rock The second single released from New Miserable Experience, penned by Hopkins, cracked the US Top 10, peaking at #6 on the Billboard singles chart shortly after Hopkins' suicide. Pieces Of The Night
Written By:
Doug Hopkins
Performed by:
Gin Blossoms
Recorded by:
Gin Blossoms
Appears on
Studio Demos, New Miserable Experience, New Miserable Experience (Deluxe Edition)
"'Pieces of the Night' had a totally different ending, a piano ending, that was my idea. The other instruments faded out and the piano just continued. It's a trick I stole from Springsteen," he said, referring to the fadeout on "Incident on 57th Street" which goes into "Rosalita."
"Of course, after they kicked me out of the band, they didn't care that it was my song and my ending got junked." Source: "Two Views Of A Gin Blossom", Where It's Hot (Sept 8 - 22, 1992) The aforementioned version of Pieces Of The Night, recorded during the New Miserable Experience sessions will be available on the re-release of New Miserable Experience in mid 2002. Hold Me Down
Written By:
Doug Hopkins / Robin Wilson
Performed by:
Gin Blossoms
Recorded by:
Gin Blossoms
Appears on
New Miserable Experience
"One night we were sitting in the studio listening to it at Ardent," Hopkins said, referring to the Memphis studio where the album was recorded, "and, OK, it's like three in the morning and I was drunk and it sounded great blasting through those speakers and I turned to Robin and said, 'OK, I'll give you half credit on this song if you promise to vote with me on having this as our first single and video,' because we thought A&M (the band's label) was going to let us pick the first single and video. That's how naive we were."
Source: "Two Views Of A Gin Blossom", Where It's Hot (Sept 8 - 22, 1992) Cheatin'
Written By:
Doug Hopkins / Jesse Valenzula
Performed by:
Gin Blossoms
Recorded by:
Gin Blossoms
Appears on
New Miserable Experience
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